To honor my
grandfather, Kenneth LeRoy Frye Sr., and to more thoroughly document his life
in one place, I present the following:
“Something You Thought You Were So
Right About”
May 26, 1995 in Murray, Utah:
Granddaughter: “…I was just gonna ask
Grandpa, do you have any opinions today that are the total opposite of what you
had 40 years ago? Something you thought you were so right about, and you were
never gonna change ...and all of a sudden...”
Grandpa: “Well yes, I swore I'd never
join the LDS church, for instance.”
Now that is quite a response coming from
a man who held very strong negative sentiments and opinions for decades toward The
Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (“LDS” or “Mormon”) as an
institution, primarily because of past polygamy. In his own words:
“…I resisted the church very
vigorously....”
“…I was violently opposed to [the LDS
church].”
The dialogue and comments were taken
from interviews of Kenneth LeRoy Frye Sr., or “Grandpa” or “Kenneth,” by his
children and grandchildren recorded on audio cassette tapes. By 1995, Kenneth
was 82 years old and recounting earlier times, having already lived a life
replete with diverse experiences worth documenting and passing down to future
generations.
But what changed for Kenneth? Why would
he do an about-face, and embrace something he previously opposed “vigorously” or
“violently?”
“I’m Gonna Join the Navy”
Around 1926, an ex-Navy man and his
wife opened up a local bakery shop in the small town of Seneca, Missouri. Then 14-year-old
Kenneth LeRoy Frye was hired nearly immediately to help clean and make bread, pastries,
pies, cakes, and donuts. He really admired the man for whom he worked and was
told many stories and experiences of his 20 years or so in the Navy. This created
a great deal of interest and a desire for Kenneth to join the Navy, but he would
need to wait another three years until he was at least 17.
Within months of working, Kenneth
moved in with the family who lived right above the bakery. The business was a
successful endeavor and also had little competition. But the couple who owned
the bakery moved away seemingly abruptly, and Kenneth ended up taking charge of
the bakery at age 15. He later learned the reason for the owners’ move, and it
really hurt him since he considered them second parents. Evidently, the wife
had been “playing footsie with several of the town Romeos.” In other words, she
was unfaithful to her husband and marital vows. Kenneth grew up in a devout
Methodist household, and unfaithfulness to one’s spouse was a serious offense.
Kenneth continued working at the
bakery until the age of 16. He also had a stint working on a farm doing manual
labor, pitching wheat or hay and throwing it into a wagon. While working hard on
the farm one day, Kenneth became very tired, exhausted and was dripping with
sweat. He couldn’t take it anymore. He then exclaimed to a friend working with him
at the time, “The hell with this. I’m gonna join the Navy!” His friend looked
at him for a minute, then threw down his own pitchfork, and replied, “So am I!”
“First Great Sorrow”
The stories of the ex-Navy man--his
adventures and experiences--excited Kenneth enough that he decided he was smart
enough to quit school and join the Navy. The problem was Kenneth was only 16
years old, one year shy of the minimum age requirement. But he applied to join the
Navy anyway. He lied about his birth year as 1911 instead of 1912, and somehow
got his mother to sign the paperwork attesting to his fabricated age making it appear
as if he was 17. With age no longer an issue, he was accepted into the Navy in
1928 and set his sights on becoming a pilot, a long-held dream. Kenneth received
basic training at the Naval Training Station at Great Lakes, Illinois. He was then
transferred to San Diego, California where he completed a pilot course and
other training. He loved every minute of it.

Kenneth was recommended for Aviation
Pilot School, but eventually dropped from pilot training because
his eyesight didn’t meet the standard needed for pilots. Kenneth felt crushed
and mortified, his dream shattered in an instant. It was almost as if his
existence had ended. It was the first great sorrow in his life and required a long
time to recover from the disappointment. He left the Navy after a four-year
enlistment and returned home to Seneca, Missouri. After two months of trying to
get back into the bakery business, he decided to re-enlist in the Navy since he
thought it would provide more opportunity and greater financial security. In September
1932, he was assigned to Pensacola, Florida. Instead of pilot training, he worked
in aircraft operations and maintenance, somewhat gratifying as it still involved
airplanes and transport flying to an extent.
“Second Great Sorrow”
While in Pensacola, Florida, Kenneth
met a girl named Dannie and was married in January 1934. He loved her greatly. They
lived with Dannie’s mother and brother in Pensacola until January 1935, when Kenneth
was transferred to California for a new assignment aboard the USS Maryland, a
battleship. Dannie remained behind in Florida while Kenneth was stationed at San
Pedro, California.
Near the end of 1936, however, Kenneth
discovered his wife was not the person he thought she was. She got involved in
things he could not believe. Dannie was unfaithful to him and her marital vows
and had already started an annulment of their marriage. After nearly three
years of marriage and being physically apart due to the Navy transfer, the
divorce was finalized on December 11, 1936. Dannie was also married that same
day to another man. Just a day earlier, December 10, Kenneth was transferred to
the fleet air base at Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, his last day as a married man.
The attorney working with Kenneth
stated in a letter after the divorce, “My advice would be to forget the
unpleasantness of the past and find someone perhaps more worthy of your
affections in the future.”
Kenneth later lamented: “I couldn't quite
cope with the idea [Dannie] had been untrue to me, and I knew if I stayed in
the Navy, this is a true test of a person's ability to maintain the marriage
vows.” The betrayal and divorce were his second great sorrow in life to that
point. It would take him some years to recover emotionally.
“A Big Break”
By September 1939, Kenneth had been transferred
to Anacostia Naval Air Station in Washington D.C. That brought an opportunity
to meet Elizabeth Annie West at a dance. Elizabeth usually didn’t like to
attend dances, but her sister, Blanche, persisted, and they went together.
Kenneth and Elizabeth both danced that night then dated for a time. Kenneth cut
off the relationship when the topic of marriage came up and Elizabeth shared
her intention of raising children in her “Mormon” faith, The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints. Kenneth wouldn’t have it--being a Methodist--he couldn’t
swallow some of the beliefs and practices of Elizabeth’s church. He had
previously ended a relationship with another woman for the same reason, wanting
to raise her children in the Catholic faith.
Kenneth still had a strong desire to
get married and have children. He felt “old and desperate” being nearly 28
years old. Some time passed, and he reached out to Elizabeth again. They again discussed
marriage and compromised that the children would make their own choice regarding
church or religion when they were old enough. Agreeing on this matter, and after
somewhat “businesslike” dating, the two were married on November 2, 1940 in
Washington D.C.
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Kenneth and Elizabeth Frye November 2, 1940
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After World War II broke out and the
U.S. entered the war in the 1940s, Kenneth recognized his poor eyesight and
vision had given him “a big break.” He learned the unfortunate truth that most,
if not all of his companions in his basic pilot training group, had been killed
in the war except for one who was dropped from pilot training for poor eyesight
as well.
Had Kenneth’s eyesight been good
enough, he likely would have suffered the same fate as his colleagues and been
killed as a Navy pilot. Kenneth credits his poor eyesight and vision for extending
his life. It is also likely he would have never met and married Elizabeth Annie
West. She ended up being someone worthy of Kenneth’s affections and became a
profound influence in his life.
“Mormons Did a Lotta Crazy Things”
While living in Washington D.C. and
thereabouts, Kenneth and Elizabeth had five children. Kenneth regularly
attended the Methodist Church, where he taught Sunday School. Most of the time,
Elizabeth and the children would accompany him. On several occasions, however, the
family attended Elizabeth’s church--The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day
Saints--and something caught Kenneth’s attention. When he took his children to Primary,
singing time and gospel classes for kids, he could not believe his eyes. He said:
“Here were 35 or maybe 40 youngsters
that were actually sitting down, respectful and seemed to be intelligent,
well-behaved children. And at the time, I thought, ‘Well, I know these Mormons
did a lotta crazy things, but I didn't know they drugged their children...’”
Joking aside, he was so impressed with
their behavior he could not fathom how it could be otherwise. Over the next few
years, he observed the conduct of the children and adults involved in the Primary.
He was also impressed by the good examples of the church members and developed
a budding interest in the church’s “philosophies” even though he still doubted many
aspects of the church.
Kenneth started taking gospel lessons
at home from the Latter-day Saint missionaries but was a “hard nut to crack.” Two
different pairs of missionaries had already given up and stopped visiting him. He
felt they couldn’t answer his questions adequately. When a third set of
missionaries visited him, he was more impressed as they could consistently answer
his questions with the scriptures. Kenneth was still far from wanting to join
Elizabeth’s church, and by mid-1952, the family was transferred by the Navy to Alameda,
California.
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Frye Family, 1950 Back Row (left to right): Kenneth Sr., Kenneth Jr., and Elizabeth Front Row (left to right): Cheryl, Ronald, and Michael *Daughter Linda not born yet
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“Crazy Enough to Take It”
In Alameda, the family lived for a
short time in naval housing. Kenneth and Elizabeth attended a weekly Latter-day
Saint evening activity called “Mutual.” Kenneth made several friends and had
lots of fun. He attended for about one month, and it is not entirely certain whether
the local congregation mistook him as a member. The group was looking for a
volunteer to teach the course, and someone suggested that “Brother Frye” teach.
Kenneth was shocked. He recounted:
“I almost dropped my teeth because … first
… I wasn't a member. Second… I really knew nothing about Mormonism, [and] wasn't
particularly interested in it. But I thought, ‘Well, if this group of people
are crazy enough to ask me to teach a course that I know nothing about, I'm
crazy enough to take it,’ [and] I took it. I enjoyed it immensely. I didn't
really learn too much about the church, but I found out a lot of the basic
beliefs and principles.”
“Snotty-Nosed Mormon Missionaries”
The family later moved to San Leandro,
California into a home with a big yard, a quieter location, and warmer weather
compared to Alameda. Elizabeth’s church was also located a few blocks down the
street, and it wasn’t long until the missionaries started showing up again. But
they also gave up on Kenneth. There followed another set of missionaries, and this
time one of them could answer Kenneth’s questions better than any previous missionaries.
Kenneth was also attending Sunday School class at Elizabeth’s church and found a
particular Sunday School teacher to be very good and influential, but was still
far from being “converted.”
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Kenneth and Elizabeth Frye Home, July 1994 San Leandro, California
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There was also a problem happening behind
the scenes. Elizabeth’s health had been getting worse over time. After the
birth of their first child, it was discovered she was epileptic and was subject
to blackouts, or temporarily losing consciousness. Her condition grew worse
with each succeeding pregnancy. During one blackout, she even fell and suffered
a serious head laceration.
During this time the missionaries
were teaching Kenneth in the home and were church “Elders,” Elizabeth suggested
to Kenneth that he allow them to give her a priesthood blessing--an anointing
with consecrated olive oil and a special prayer as mentioned in the Bible
(James 5:14). Kenneth was incredulous. He had “absolutely no faith” in the “Mormon
missionaries” or that they could make any difference. He thought, “What can
those two young kids do who aren't even dry behind the ears yet?” Regardless,
he consented to allow them to bless her since he didn’t think they could do any
harm. The missionaries then gave Elizabeth the anointing and blessing. Kenneth later
explained what followed:
“Well, needless to say, after that I
had greater respect for the priesthood and its powers. Beth has never had one
blackout since that time. She did have a sort of amnesia spell in a
neurologist's office a short time after that, but nothing more even of that
nature since... And I began to sit up and take notice that maybe these young
snotty-nosed missionaries were truly servants of God…”
Kenneth then consented to be baptized
and began to change habits such as giving up alcohol, cigars, coffee and other behaviors.
He was baptized into The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on March
6, 1954. At the time, he had been married to a church member for roughly 13
years and was nearly 42 years old. He documented the first time he bore
testimony was on February 6, 1955 at a Latter-day Saint service aboard the USS
Wasp, an aircraft carrier. On August 30, 1957, Kenneth was sealed to his wife
and children for all eternity in the Los Angeles, California Temple.
Kenneth recorded the following
comments in the years following his baptism:
“…Coming in the LDS Church was a
great challenge for me…”
“…Giving testimony has been a very
trying and sometimes rather exasperating experience…”
“…I've had some real shockers exposed
to me and that's why I say it's still a challenge to this day for me to be
obedient in many ways in accordance with the church's teachings.”
“…Being a member of the church for me
has not been an easy thing to do.”
Indeed, it was not easy. Kenneth
documented a great challenge a number of years later. Additionally, he retired
from the United States Navy as a Lieutenant Commander effective December 31,
1955. He served for 27 years.
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Lieutenant Commander Kenneth LeRoy Frye, 1955
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“A Cold Week”
In 1967, December 14 was the coldest day
of the year in San Leandro. Nearby Oakland International Airport recorded a low
temperature of 36 degrees Fahrenheit and a day average temperature of 41.5
degrees, contrasted to the historic day average temperature of 50 degrees. This
was also one of the coldest weeks in San Leandro’s history at the time.
Kenneth and the family nearly froze. The
home’s furnace had not been working for at least one week, leaving them with no
heat. On top of that, a windstorm the night of December 13 caused a power
outage for a few hours. This rendered their electric blankets worthless adding
to the miserably cold temperature.
On December 15 the family’s furnace
got replaced. This provided relief from the cold, but the new furnace was just one
expense in a chain of events leading to a great financial strain. It also posed
a great spiritual challenge to Kenneth.
“Going Downhill”
About February and March of 1967, Kenneth
had purchased mattresses, box springs, and a new refrigerator--a fair sum of money.
He was working for Sears Roebuck Company at the time and his salary was commission-based.
Kenneth had also started to pay a “full tithe,” or 10% of all his income/financial
increase, to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This was
something he was not previously very diligent with, albeit an expectation for church
members. After he started paying a full tithe, things really began to go
downhill.
In order to pay off previous debts
and get his son, Michael, started on a two-year mission as a proselyting
missionary, Kenneth had to take a loan against a life insurance policy. Kenneth
also received a letter from his oldest son, Kenneth Jr., who was attending
college and asked for money since his own finances were low and had expenses. The
engine of the family car, a 1961 Buick Special Station Wagon, then failed when
the engine block cracked requiring impossibly expensive repairs or a new car
purchase.
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A 1961 Buick Special Station Wagon
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Kenneth also learned his income taxes had not been paid and needed to
be resolved quickly. His middle son, Ronald, was serving a foreign mission and needed
financial support. To further complicate the situation, the house then needed an
expensive new roof. By December, the home furnace gave out, leaving the family without
heat during one of the coldest weeks in San Leandro’s history at the time. Soon
thereafter, the hot water heater went out and needed replacement. The biggest blow
came when it was discovered the front porch was infested with termites. Expensive
extermination services and structural repairs were needed. In addition, the
water well went out, and since the home was not using municipal water services,
it needed immediate repair. All this after Kenneth starting to pay a full tithe,
putting his trust in the following Bible verse:
“Bring ye all the tithes into the
storehouse,
That there may be meat in mine house,
and prove me now herewith …
If I will not open you the windows of
heaven
And pour you out a blessing…”
(Malachi 3:10)
The windows of heaven were certainly
pouring out “blessings!”
Previous debts. Mattresses and box
springs. A refrigerator. A needy college student. Two missionaries financially
dependent on the family. A broken car engine. Income taxes. A roof for the
house. A furnace. A water heater. Termites. A water well. All within months. And
tithing to pay. Amidst all this, Kenneth recalled the heavy and discouraging financial
burden:
“…Little did we know all the expenses
we would have before the year was through.”
“…I felt the Lord was really testing
me.”
“…I couldn't make it. When I really
tried the hardest, it seemed like I had more temptation, let's say, to forget tithing.”
1967 and thereabouts was also a time
where something like a bank credit card--having a revolving balance that could
be paid off over time, and also semi-universal where it could be used at various
vendors and multiple locations beyond a particular department or retail store--was
a rarity. Kenneth did not have such convenience compared to today. The
temptation to stop paying tithing to the church in order to pay for the numerous
expenses must have been appealing and easy to justify. Kenneth also did something
he absolutely abhorred—having to ask his brother, Ralph, to lend
him money.
Although with a bleak financial prospect,
Kenneth still chose to pay a full tithe throughout the whole ordeal. His son,
Michael, later remarked, “It would have been easy, even merciful, to have excused
himself from his promise to have paid a full tithe. But he didn’t opt for the
easy out and kept his promise to the Lord. And the Lord kept his promise too.
Although times were sometimes lean, necessities were always somehow acquired.”
“Worth Every Minute and Every Dollar”
After passing through the harrowing
financial experience and having paid a full tithe, Kenneth later recounted: “It's
worth every minute of it and every dollar that I put into it. It's a great
privilege for a person who can change their attitudes and belief in something
that I was violently opposed to.”
Kenneth also commented about his decision
to remain firm in the church and its teachings:
“…I want to tell all the listeners,
joining the church and trying to do the best I could, has been a very fruitful,
entertaining, and a wonderful experience in my life. And I recommend it to all
people who are striving to learn the true purpose of life and to serve in any
capacity that they can accept and do a 100% job. I recommend this highly, all
those who are listening to me will investigate to the best of their ability the
standards and beliefs and practices of the LDS church. I think the Articles of Faith
more fully and completely give you a better understanding of life and a life
hereafter. This has been exceptionally blessing for me in these hard trying
times…I do not regret joining the church…”
“I'm so grateful for [son-in-law] Jim’s
and [daughter] Linda's encouragement and mostly for my wife and her help that
had me come into the church. It changed many of my attitudes and my thinking,
my conduct…”
“…Regardless of where you go, the
church is there, and you're usually accepted without too much reservation as a
member in that family. That's a great blessing. It's been a real joy to me and
one of the smart things I did in my life…”
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Elizabeth, Kenneth, Linda, Jim July 1989
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Kenneth also frequently reminded his family
of the love he had for his wife, Elizabeth, and her influence in helping him
join the church. Had it not been for his previous two great sorrows--being
dropped from pilot training and experiencing a divorce due to an unfaithful
spouse--one can only speculate how Kenneth’s life would have turned out without
Elizabeth. Kenneth remarked as follows:
“I've come to the conclusion this
was, next to marrying my wife, this [joining the church] was the wisest
decision I ever made.”
“After five children and
approximately 13 years of marriage to my wife Beth, I joined the church.
Probably the wisest move I ever made [...].”
“…I've always had a real testimony of
God the Father, Jesus Christ His Son, and I'm very grateful for the many things
that the church has helped me on, particularly in the rearing of my children.”
“…Probably my most spiritual
[experience] of all was when my wife and I were sealed in the Los Angeles
temple. […] I know that joining the
church was not only good for me but made us more united as a family.”
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Frye Family Back row (left to right): Ronald, Kenneth Jr., Kenneth Sr., Michael Front row (left to right): Cheryl, Elizabeth, Linda
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“Safe Deposit Box”
Kenneth LeRoy Frye passed away on August
12, 1998, nearly 86 years old, and only about three years after some of the treasured
audio interviews were recorded by his daughter, Linda. At his funeral, his daughter Cheryl spoke of a small
detail about his life not widely known among the family, but emphasized the
intent of his heart and how he really felt about the church’s standards and teachings.
Cheryl explained as follows:
“Dad had a safe deposit box at the
bank. And I said, you know dad, we’ve got a couple of safes at home that are
fireproof. If you want to, save yourself a little extra funds and you could just
use our safe deposit box. Which he did… he had his insurance policies, and title
to the car, and different things, and his retirement and what not. And I
categorized the things that were in this little folder that I put into our
fire-proof safe at home. One of the things that dad placed in our safe at home
was this proclamation [The Family: A Proclamation to the World]. And I don’t
know about you, but I think if you read the content of this, I think that says
something very dear and very special about dad.”
“Total Opposite of 40 Years Ago”
So, what changed for Kenneth LeRoy
Frye Sr. before passing away? How could he, in the words of a granddaughter, have
an opinion “the total opposite of 40 years ago?”
Perhaps it can be boiled down to eyesight, either literal or figurative.
While Kenneth’s eyes may have originally
been focused on becoming a Navy pilot, poor vision allowed him to live in order
to see it all.
While an ex-wife’s eyes may have wandered
to other men and caused a divorce, it eventually brought into Kenneth’s view a Latter-day
Saint woman, Elizabeth, “more worthy of his affections” and who also was a major
positive influence.
While Kenneth saw The Church of Jesus
Christ of Latter-day Saints in a negative light for decades, it was nothing
compared to the brightness of observing Primary children and their teachers for
but a few years.
While his wife Elizabeth’s eyesight may
have “darkened” because of blackouts during epileptic episodes, Kenneth’s eyes became
enlightened to the realization of God’s power through a priesthood blessing by young
missionaries.
While major financial burdens may have
tempted Kenneth to look toward money as a source of relief, it was actually his
eyes of faith looking toward God and His promises which provided the things that
really mattered--whether for this life or in preparation for the next.
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Written
and adapted August 11, 2022 by Thomas S. Hartley, grandson to Kenneth LeRoy
Frye Sr. Reviewed and approved by Linda Frye Hartley and Michael Frye, children
to Kenneth LeRoy Frye Sr.
Primary
Sources:
Autobiography
of Kenneth LeRoy Frye Sr. Typed by Linda Frye Hartley (daughter) on June 12, 1975.
Oral
History of Kenneth LeRoy Frye Sr., Discs 1-5. Oral interviews were recorded
between August 11, 1994 and June 4, 1995 and then later transcribed in July
2022.
Video
Recording of the Funeral of Kenneth LeRoy Frye Sr. – August 22, 1998.
The
autobiography, audio recordings and transcripts are available for free at
FamilySearch.org under Kenneth LeRoy Frye’s memories:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/memories/KWCD-W4X
Other
Sources or References:
Various
telephone conversations, email exchanges, and otherwise between Thomas S.
Hartley, grandson, and Linda Frye Hartley and Michael Frye, children, to Kenneth
LeRoy Frye Sr.
Weather
Underground. San Leandro/Oakland International Airport Station. Includes
temperature averages/highs/lows, wind speeds, etc.
Daily https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/us/ca/oakland/KOAK/date/1967-12-14
Weekly: https://www.wunderground.com/history/weekly/us/ca/oakland/KOAK/date/1967-12-15
Monthly:
https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/us/ca/oakland/KOAK/date/1967-12
Federal
Reserve. Credit Cards: Use and Consumer Attitudes, 1970–2000, Thomas A. Durkin.
https://www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/bulletin/2000/0900lead.pdf
Notes:
Kenneth
mentioned in his autobiography the car’s transmission went out, but stated in a
recorded audio interview the car’s engine needed to be rebuilt. Two children,
Michael and Ronald, indicate they are certain it was the car’s engine since the
1961 Buick special was when an aluminum block engine was introduced.
Kenneth
documented his marriage to Dannie as September 1934. The actual marriage
certificate states the marriage took place in January 1934. The reason for the discrepancy
is unknown, perhaps a transcription error or other mistake in the autobiography.